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Marat Safin: 33 tips ($1080 staked)
Wayne Odesnik: 6 tips ($140 staked)
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| | Aug 7 2008 07:04:17
Johnnycake
93 (101) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | Glad I won some back on this one after the Lopez fiasco |
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| | Aug 7 2008 03:15:10
stariles
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Login to give Aces | | @Buzz => Agreed. No point in taking this any further.
Good luck anyways. |
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| | Aug 7 2008 03:12:39
buzz_1
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Login to give Aces | | and this all started over a statement, I said that if you would have actually thought about we would not be having this conversation. I have corrected my statement for you so why can't we drop this now? |
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| | Aug 7 2008 03:11:16
buzz_1
154 (184) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | sigh....I guess I have to actually type out a reason for every single thing i say as you can not sit there and think.."hey why would he write right". And try to come up with a legitimate reason. Yes i said he was great referring to years ago! wow. Why would I contradict myself saying he has been great lately when I have said he has struggled lately? And I thought we had settled the "hard was marits worst surface"? I think we did by me saying it was a misunderstanding and it meant lately not years ago. |
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| | Aug 7 2008 03:05:31
stariles
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Login to give Aces | | @Buzz => We agree on the struggles, and his has always had them by the way. But these are not linked to the surface, but to the player. As you may know, Marat is often victim of mental breakdowns.
And I was reacting to your statement saying Hard is Marat's worst surface. I still don't see any good arguments for that, and you now say he has been great on it... |
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| | Aug 7 2008 02:54:52
buzz_1
154 (184) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | yes i understand. My statement (not ridiculous IMO) was referring to lately. I do not know why I would refer to years past. Why would I make a statement that was referring to years ago. That would make no sense when talking about a match tonight. Yes he has been great on hard but has also has his struggles and those are now. |
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| | Aug 7 2008 02:51:57
stariles
449 (567) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | @Buzz => No hostility, it's just that you sounded so sure of your (ridiculous IMO) statement that I had to react.
I agree he has been struggling lately with a couple of upsets, but that's Marat. However, Hard has always been, is still, and will always be his best surface. |
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| | Aug 7 2008 02:42:34
buzz_1
154 (184) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | let me rephrase that. He has struggled on hard. And I was not referring to 2-3 years ago. I am talking about lately. I made a comment and you act like you want to kill me now. You can settle down now. Whats with the hostility? |
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| | Aug 7 2008 02:25:14
stariles
449 (567) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | @Buzz => Hard court is Safin's worst surface in your opinion ???
What a joke ! How come he won 4 of his 7 major titles on Hard then, including 2 Grand Slams ??? |
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| | Aug 7 2008 02:16:48
buzz_1
154 (184) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | this being odesnik's best surface and safin's worst. Besides the run safin had at wimbledon he has not done anything this year. He did beat a big serving isner in straight sets pretty easy which I thought it would be a little tougher than that. Odesnik has been pretty consistent in his tournaments this year winning his 1 or 2 matches and then getting beat out but beating no one that stands out. But with his latest issues with injuries and such I do not know what he has left. He is 0-4 against top 50 players this year and has not played near the competition that safin has. I will back safin here |
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| | Aug 6 2008 23:36:38
julian (Champion)
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Login to give Aces | | Good odds for Odesnik - at home and TI min buy in $3.80! |
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| | Aug 6 2008 23:20:56
Tadeliz
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Login to give Aces | | Stay here with Marat on this surface. 2-0 |
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| | Aug 6 2008 22:31:27
theforecaster
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| | Aug 6 2008 22:23:02
mbandrews
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| | Aug 6 2008 22:22:59
mbandrews
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| | Aug 6 2008 22:09:40
bignige
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Login to give Aces | | Im with Safin. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 21:06:58
supersi (Mod)
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| | Aug 6 2008 20:47:15
helrider
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| | Aug 6 2008 20:36:56
stevenkieu
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| | Aug 6 2008 19:19:22
botha333
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Login to give Aces | | Wayne's world will be the hell tonight. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 19:10:11
tgrsfn5
121 (121) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | take out safin's great run at wimbledon and you see that he is nothing special any more, even on what used to be his best surface. this could be a close match, so i think the value is with odesnik. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 18:50:30
neilfenman
126 (210) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | Well Safin has won a match and a good one at that, so looks to be up for it this week. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 18:45:50
dimarco
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Login to give Aces | | Marat seems motivated and in good form.
Should be a easy match this one.
But you never know with the sick russian. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 18:13:17
kingkoubek (Mod)
364 (910) Posts
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Login to give Aces | | im happy to go large on safin here, i would not however put a straight sets bet on this for him. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 17:20:58
Sapster
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| | Aug 6 2008 16:12:00
Attraction1
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Login to give Aces | | Yeah right.Odds on Marat 1.3 or 1.25 I have not seen for a while.And against Odesnik with those odds you must be Gates to throw away money so easily.Odesnik had great last year and this year he had injury problems but he can give Marat a lot of troubles.Marat won GS on hard long time ago when he could run little faster and longer.I am not saying Marat is not favourite for this match but with those odds no thank you.Odesnik has great attacking game and you will thrown money away once when Marat will start arguing with empire. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 15:50:52
Evader
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| | Aug 6 2008 15:20:57
catscratch666
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Login to give Aces | | Alright...how many times has Marat won a grand Slam on HC vs Clay?
I can't see this match as being nothing but a storm in a teacup for the Odesnik backers. It's brewing..... |
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| | Aug 6 2008 15:17:13
Attraction1
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Login to give Aces | | odds on Marat are the biggest bookie mistake of the year.Marat favourite surface is clay couse movement is little slower than on hardcourts.Odesnik has game to breake Marat nerves from first point.Odesnik plays angles and often he attack net and this is something Marat don t do too much.I am on Odesnik couse those odds on Marat are the biggest crap.I would take Marat for at least 1.5 |
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| | Aug 6 2008 15:03:38
Daco19
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Login to give Aces | | i think safin should have too much class for odesnik |
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| | Aug 6 2008 14:50:22
andropov
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| | Aug 6 2008 14:49:42
wtksz2
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| | Aug 6 2008 14:43:34
Libpool
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Login to give Aces | | I'm a big fan of Safin and I fully expect him to beat Odesnik easily. |
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| | Aug 6 2008 14:31:46
uigres
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Login to give Aces | | safin 2-0 |
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| | Aug 6 2008 13:45:37
hellraidder
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Login to give Aces | | This is a match which produce a really great surprise for USA ....After a good match with B. Reynolds, Odesnik will be really motivated to win this game cause he plays home and the public will be with him in every moment . With a good service and more patience i think that Odesnik should beat Safin ....A safin who isnt in a good form ....a lost legend i can say:) Odesnik will prouve that he is a really good player on hard:) |
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| | Aug 6 2008 13:32:20
quicksilverguy01
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| | Aug 6 2008 13:30:42
catscratch666
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Login to give Aces | | I'm glad people have decided Marat's best surface could be hard?!
As eluded to yesterday, why would u bother thinking twice!
Marat ALL THE WAY! |
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| | Aug 6 2008 11:35:14
nikgill1985
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Login to give Aces | | It's Marat's best surface so although unpredictable it's still a good bet |
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| | Aug 6 2008 11:22:14
koliopp
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Login to give Aces | | simple odesnik is here just because of simply awful Reynolds performance as destroyer mentioned so easy win for Safin here |
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